Jarvus: 11.08.2015 , 10:09 AM | #1: Quote. After the war, Jacen traveled the galaxy and learned from different Force users. Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. Why do you ask? Ah well, I suppose different fanfiction appeals to others. All of the Jedi in old EU became more and more powerful as time went by. In Legends, Jacen and Luke's struggle has more weight. That's somewhat similar to The Rise of Skywalker's final confrontation between Kylo and Rey, where, in a moment of concern for his mother, Ben's defenses fall, allowing Rey to stab him in the abdomen. Upon seeing his uncle standing over him, ready to strike, Ben fights back. Luke was fully prepared to kill his nephew, but he feared that by striking down Caedus in anger, he would fall to the Dark Side himself. Predictable and his descent into the darkside was not convincingly written IMO. Godzilla vs. Kong Theory: The REAL Villain Is WAY Deadlier. There's much more of a finality to Jacen's arc, bittersweet as it is. As he left to save her, his twin sister Jaina stabbed him in the abdomen. Like Rey and Kylo's fight in The Force Awakens, Caedus was faced with an opponent who employed an unfamiliar fighting style and was at a disadvantage due to his injuries. Additionally, Jacen had been a captive of the Yuuzhan Vong, who placed him in a device called the Embrace of Pain, which continuously stimulated his pain receptors, and served as his prison for a year. Jaina and Jacen were a huge part of the EU, first appearing in Timothy Zahn’s The Last Command in ’93. Ben Solo is able to kill his father but not his mother; in The Last Jedi, he is unable to fire on Leia's ship. Although Marvel's The Rise of Kylo Ren comic is still revealing information about this part of Ben's past, we still have some information about him before he became Kylo Ren. When they w… We know it’s clear that Rey and Kylo are unlikely to be twins, but a popular fan theory is that they’re secretly brother and sister. From what we can tell, he was a happy child who wanted to be a pilot like his father, although he struggled with maintaining the darkness within him, which manifested as resentment of his family. Once Ben switched to darkness, he turned on his classmates, becoming Kylo Ren and destroying everything Luke built. That conflict tore the galaxy apart, resulting in the death of trillions, devastating both the New Republic and the Jedi Order. RELATED: Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? mascot-6 Subscribe Login Una volta, egli era un promettente studente del Maestro Jedi Luke Skywalker, l'ex Ben Solo non era né un Jedi né un Sith, ma un prodotto degli insegnamenti di entrambi gli ordini. They went from being good pilots to flying in perfect synchronicity due to mind melds. Affiliate links used when available. Directed and co-written by J.J. Abrams, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker stars Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong' o, Domhnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Joonas Suotamo, Billie Lourd, Keri Russell, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, and Carrie Fisher, with Naomi Ackie and Richard E. Grant. Plus Chewie was dead before Jacen became Caedus but Chewie's alive when Kylo Ren became a sith. During the final part of Zahn’s trilogy, Leia finally gave birth to to the twins on Coruscant. Upon his return, he adopted a more detached view of life and death, reasoning that sacrifices had to be made for the greater good. Before Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2012, and subsequently streamlined Star Wars continuity, there was the Expanded Universe, the umbrella term for any officially licensed material outside of the films, including novels, television series, video games and comic books. This post contains observations taken from the trailers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Jacen sought out possible futures through the Force, and encountered a vision of himself fighting Luke and killing him while the galaxy remained at war. 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All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Kylo’s descent into the Dark Side seems to echo that of Jacen. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. He was replacing the daughter he’d lost so many years ago. Jaina had unique training, studying under the tutelage of both Boba Fett and Luke at different points of her life. Ben Solo/Kylo and the Sequels as a whole were poorly written overall. Part of that is because of the benefit that long-form storytelling. Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? Asadora! The warring factions had become united against Caedus and, following his death, made a peace settlement. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. Star Wars: How Jacen Solo Created the Blueprint for Kylo Ren Star Wars Legends’ Expanded Universe introduced young Jacen Solo, whose rise and fall as Darth … Batman: What Live-Action Incarnations Can Learn from Soul of the Dragon, Thor: Love and Thunder Set Photos Tease an Alien World. The most likely theory is that Han and Leia’s other child was thought to be dead after the massacre of the Knights of Ren, causing Luke’s self-imposed exile and the breakdown of Leia and Han’s relationship, a couple so devastated by that loss that they refuse to even mention it. However, his victory came at a price. Ben and Jacen both have stories that heavily feature a conflict with Luke Skywalker. Lia is an English Literature Major who loves all things X-Men –and most importantly, Cyclops. Meanwhile, characters like Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker do have that connection to Jacen, adding more emotion to the story. Caedus begged his sister during their duel to help his daughter, and passed on an opportunity to strike down Jaina, realizing it would waste precious time to save his daughter. Though Jacen was the son of Han and Leia, he would be forever remembered as Sith Lord Darth Caedus rather than the name he was born with, just like The Force Awakens‘ very own Ben Solo. Privacy Policy / Cookie Policy. He hunts for Luke, who had gone into hiding, but despite finally being able to choose his own path, he doesn't feel fulfilled. So, when it comes to the battle of the Solo kids, we have to give one to Jacen. Like Kylo Ren, he embraced a new identity: Darth Caedus. Ben’s relationship with Leia and Han when he was growing up is unknown, though he came to resent his father. Poco después de la batalla de la Fortaleza Vader, el Lord Sith Darth Vader, el personaje Sith del famoso Caballero Jedi Anakin Skywalker, escuchó la voz de Ren diciendo que era hora de «dejar morir el pasado» mientras mataba las ilusiones … While both stories have an inherent element of tragedy, Ben Solo's turn and redemption lack the emotional depth of Jacen's. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. Supplemental material provides a brief look into Ben's childhood. A secret Sith apprentice named Vergere taught Jacen how to survive, but unknown to him, the very lessons that kept him alive were his introductions to the Sith. Stover’s Star Wars stories generally tend to get quite far on the psychologising side, and “Traitor” doesn’t Jacen’s fall to … Reply. Snoke's manipulation seems to revolve around the promise of power, acceptance and the ability for Ben to choose his own path rather than be overshadowed by his famous family. Ben Solo Kylo Ren; Star Wars character: Adam Driver as Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) First appearance: The Force Awakens (2015) Last appearance: In The Last Jedi, Luke is petrified by Ben's darkness. KEEP READING: Star Wars: How Heir to the Empire Brought the Thrawn Trilogy to Comics Click the button below to start this article in quick view. still revealing information about this part of Ben's past. Like Ben, Jacen was born after the Battle of Endor, and also joined Luke's Jedi academy. That conflict is magnified by Luke's internal struggling from killing Lumiya, whom he had believed killed Mara Jade. He is also known as Darth Caedus and gets his ability to maniupulate the force from Leia. So could he have secretly saved his younger sister who was training alongside him? If this is the case, we could still see Rey eventually redeemed just like Jaina was in the EU books, ready to save the galaxy and defeat her evil brother. He embarked on a mission with Ben Skywalker and Nelani Dinn, and encountered a woman who reveals herself to Jacen as Lumiya, the Dark Lady of the Sith. Disney's Raya and the Last Dragon Story Trailer Reveals Awkwafina's Dragon, Godzilla Vs. Kong Trailer May Reveal [SPOILER] as the Film's Real Villain, Disney+'s Peter Pan & Wendy Casts Jim Gaffigan as Mr. Smee, Spider-Man 3 Won't Include Dane DeHaan's Green Goblin, the Actor Says, News of the World Is Basically The Mandalorian In the Old West, Godzilla vs. Kong Announces Trailer Date With a Titanic Poster, Disney Reveals Raya and the Last Dragon's Premiere Access Pricing, Spider-Man 3 Photo Confirms Tom Holland's Brother's Role, Modern Cyberpunk Keeps Forgetting the 'Punk'. User Info: Necronmon. At that moment, Jaina and Jacen's psychic bond returned, signifying that he died as Jacen rather than as Caedus. Like Ben Solo, he fell completely to the Dark Side by killing a family member. Jacen Solo was the hero of the war, defeating the leadership of the Vong and ending the conflict. Also, he understood his Force sensitivity at a young age. That became Ben 'Kylo Ren' Solo in the new trilogy, but it's hardly a coincidence that Hera's child has the same unique name. He is briefly tempted to kill his nephew, but ultimately feels shame in that fleeting thought. Two words, Power Creep. Jacen Solo story is great in everything before LOTF. She is also a huge Star Wars and DC Comics fan. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. As suspected by many fans, Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa - and was originally named Ben. It's no surprise the two share many similar story beats, but now that Kylo Ren's story is over with The Rise of Skywalker, it raises the question of which character had the stronger arc. Jacen’s life differed than Ben’s. The latter's torture, subtle seduction and flawed motivation provide a layered approach to the character and his fall. As you all know Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, just like in the comic book series they had a child who turned to the Dark Side after tragic events occurred in his life. The closets to a official book of Kylo Ren VS Jacen Solo we might get. We all know that Kylo has struggled to truly commit to the Dark Side, often tempted back to the Light. Follow 434. And much like how the trailers for The Last Jedi suggest a flirtation with the dark side for Rey, Jaina was also perilously close to the Dark Side after the death of her younger brother. 0. It's possible Vader's helmet has a similar effect on Ben that Anakin's lightsaber had on Luke, calling out to him (hence, his apparent worship of it). Vol. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Tenel Ka Djo/Jacen Solo (87) Leia Organa/Han Solo (79) Mara Jade/Luke Skywalker (59) Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (26) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (15) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (12) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (45) Jump to navigation Jump to search. Kylo Ren, un maschio umano sensibile alla Forza, è stato il Leader Supremo del Primo Ordine e Maestro dei Cavalieri di Ren durante l'era della Resistenza. He trained with his uncle Luke and his new class of Jedi, but at about age 23, Ben succumbed to the Dark Side. Could it be that the memories unleashed by the Lightsaber were in fact Rey’s rather than Luke’s? Like Rey, she was also a talented pilot. Those stories were rebranded in 2014 as Star Wars Legends and deemed no longer part of canon, although some elements and characters -- perhaps most notably Thrawn -- have since made their way back into continuity. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, Jacen was strong in the Force like his mother and uncle, Luke Skywalker. Of note is also the fact that in the Expanded Universe, Jacen Solo is the child of Han and Leia. i’m only human Not only did Caedus kill Luke's wife, Mara Jade, he also tried to turn his son to the Dark Side. Over the decades, the twins were a part of many an important storyline in the EU, but it’s their overriding arcs and eventual fates which could really help us discover the truth about Rey and Kylo. Should have never had him turn into Caedus. He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. He grew up with feelings of resentment toward his parents, and inherited the Force sensitivity of the Skywalkers. If you’re remaining spoiler-free, turn back now. RELATED: REPORT: Disney Developing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic Television Show. Because Luke, Han and Leia are mostly background characters in the sequel trilogy, they don't receive a chance to shine in Ben's story. The vision of the man on the throne that Jacen sought to prevent was replaced by one of his daughter, Allana, sitting atop a white throne as a Jedi Queen. Jacen and Ben have colorful family histories in their timelines. ... Kylo Ren is not a bad character, he’s a bad person. /Featured Stories Sidebar, Features, LucasFilm, Sci-Fi, Sequels, Star-Wars, The Quarantine Stream: ‘Bad Genius’ is a High School Heist Thriller That’s Way More Stylish Than It Has Any Right To Be, ‘The Little Things’ Review: The Dream of the ’90s is Alive in This Predictable Serial Killer Thriller, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Wants to Redefine How We Talk About “Strong Female Characters”, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ is About Finding Trust in a Broken World, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Directors and Screenwriter on the Melting Pot of Southeast Asian Influences in the New Disney Film [Interview], The ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Team Appreciates Your Comparisons to ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’, Copyright © 2005-2019 /Film. Ben Solo was born roughly a year after the Battle of Endor. Ren is haunted by the conflict between the light and dark within him. The familial elements in Jacen's arc are also more prominent, allowing for some intriguing drama. Though they now existed in the universe, it wasn’t until 1995’s Young Jedi Knights series when the twins truly came to prominence, starring in 14 titles centered around their adventures and experiences at Luke’s Jedi academy. In the original books, Jaina and Jacen trained under Luke at his Jedi Praxeum on Yavin 4 – after being sent away by their parents just like Kylo – as part of a new era of Jedi following the eradication of the legendary warriors during the Empire’s purge. Kylo Ren fue objeto de visiones de la Fuerza incluso antes de nacer. Jacen was determined to prevent that from happening. Although deleted from canon, the characters of Jaina and Jacen Solo may say a lot about what we can expect to see from Kylo Ren and Rey. However, Dinn overheard and urged Jacen against believing Lumiya. Jacen Solo wins easily. But in the comic book series, his name is Jacen Solo. In the Expanded Universe Jacen and Jaina Solo are born to Leia and Han on Coruscant in 9 ABY so if we do a bit of maths (34 ABY minus 9 ABY) we … By the time of The Force Awakens, Kylo Ren is roughly 30 years old, well into his ways as a pseudo-Sith apprentice. In the world of the expanded universe, everyone’s favorite smuggler and the galaxy’s most beloved princess had three beautiful bouncing babies. Only, instead of killing his father, he killed his aunt, Mara Jade. Kylo Ren could still very well be Jacen, or at least a Solo kid if they change his name. Logo Concept by: Illumination Ink. Though it would be slightly complex for the filmmakers to explain, it wouldn’t be impossible. Similarly, Jacen Solo has his own weakness: his daughter. In that case, it would be safe to say that Rey was likely training under Luke alongside Kylo as young child before she was dropped off on Jakku. Yep. Web design by Pro Blog Design. A one-stop shop for all things video games. In terms of Kylo Ren, Abrams said his mask is meant to be a nod to Darth Vader and that the character is well aware of what came before him, which is "very much a part of the story of the film." Jacen Solo will never follow that same path, but he nevertheless served as inspiration for Kylo Ren. He deactivated his lightsaber, and used his final moments to warn his wife and daughter to flee to safety. They have similar story beats, although Jacen's is far more defined. Many of his allies, including Chewbacca and his brother, Anakin Solo, were killed. When the moffs of the Imperial Remnant crafted a nano weapon that would target his wife and her people, Caedus feared for his daughter's life. She explained that Jacen could use the Dark Side and not be corrupted by it, and bring peace to the galaxy. Jacen’s similarity to Kylo Ren is much closer. In addition, Caedus' "irredeemable act of murder" made me hate him a lot more than Kylo's. All names, trademarks and images are copyright their respective owners. Those children were twins, Jaina and Jacen, and their younger brother, Anakin. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. KEEP READING: Star Wars: Mark Hamill Reacts to Claim Harrison Ford Kissed Him On Set. Sure, I guess that Rey and Kylo Ren having whatever storyline 'The Rise of Skywalker' was is a thing but also Jaina and Jacen Solo are better. For other uses, see Kylo. Posted on Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 by Rosie Knight. Forum Posts. Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (25) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (14) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (13) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (44) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (37) Angst (35) Romance (32) Fluff (22) Family (18) Star Wars: Jacen Solo Vs Kylo Ren, Who Had the Better Arc? STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. While Kylo Ren was his own character with alternate motivations and a very different familial relationship, the Jacen Solo stories clearly laid the foundation for Ben Solo's rise, fall and ultimate redemption. Kylo, at least, was a great source of unintentional humor. Kylo Ren Is Jacen Solo The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa who turned to the Dark Side after being trained by Luke Skywalker? 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Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. Why do you ask? Ah well, I suppose different fanfiction appeals to others. All of the Jedi in old EU became more and more powerful as time went by. In Legends, Jacen and Luke's struggle has more weight. That's somewhat similar to The Rise of Skywalker's final confrontation between Kylo and Rey, where, in a moment of concern for his mother, Ben's defenses fall, allowing Rey to stab him in the abdomen. Upon seeing his uncle standing over him, ready to strike, Ben fights back. Luke was fully prepared to kill his nephew, but he feared that by striking down Caedus in anger, he would fall to the Dark Side himself. Predictable and his descent into the darkside was not convincingly written IMO. Godzilla vs. Kong Theory: The REAL Villain Is WAY Deadlier. There's much more of a finality to Jacen's arc, bittersweet as it is. As he left to save her, his twin sister Jaina stabbed him in the abdomen. Like Rey and Kylo's fight in The Force Awakens, Caedus was faced with an opponent who employed an unfamiliar fighting style and was at a disadvantage due to his injuries. Additionally, Jacen had been a captive of the Yuuzhan Vong, who placed him in a device called the Embrace of Pain, which continuously stimulated his pain receptors, and served as his prison for a year. Jaina and Jacen were a huge part of the EU, first appearing in Timothy Zahn’s The Last Command in ’93. Ben Solo is able to kill his father but not his mother; in The Last Jedi, he is unable to fire on Leia's ship. Although Marvel's The Rise of Kylo Ren comic is still revealing information about this part of Ben's past, we still have some information about him before he became Kylo Ren. When they w… We know it’s clear that Rey and Kylo are unlikely to be twins, but a popular fan theory is that they’re secretly brother and sister. From what we can tell, he was a happy child who wanted to be a pilot like his father, although he struggled with maintaining the darkness within him, which manifested as resentment of his family. Once Ben switched to darkness, he turned on his classmates, becoming Kylo Ren and destroying everything Luke built. That conflict tore the galaxy apart, resulting in the death of trillions, devastating both the New Republic and the Jedi Order. RELATED: Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? mascot-6 Subscribe Login Una volta, egli era un promettente studente del Maestro Jedi Luke Skywalker, l'ex Ben Solo non era né un Jedi né un Sith, ma un prodotto degli insegnamenti di entrambi gli ordini. They went from being good pilots to flying in perfect synchronicity due to mind melds. Affiliate links used when available. Directed and co-written by J.J. Abrams, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker stars Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong' o, Domhnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Joonas Suotamo, Billie Lourd, Keri Russell, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, and Carrie Fisher, with Naomi Ackie and Richard E. Grant. Plus Chewie was dead before Jacen became Caedus but Chewie's alive when Kylo Ren became a sith. During the final part of Zahn’s trilogy, Leia finally gave birth to to the twins on Coruscant. Upon his return, he adopted a more detached view of life and death, reasoning that sacrifices had to be made for the greater good. Before Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2012, and subsequently streamlined Star Wars continuity, there was the Expanded Universe, the umbrella term for any officially licensed material outside of the films, including novels, television series, video games and comic books. This post contains observations taken from the trailers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Jacen sought out possible futures through the Force, and encountered a vision of himself fighting Luke and killing him while the galaxy remained at war. 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All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Kylo’s descent into the Dark Side seems to echo that of Jacen. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. He was replacing the daughter he’d lost so many years ago. Jaina had unique training, studying under the tutelage of both Boba Fett and Luke at different points of her life. Ben Solo/Kylo and the Sequels as a whole were poorly written overall. Part of that is because of the benefit that long-form storytelling. Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? Asadora! The warring factions had become united against Caedus and, following his death, made a peace settlement. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. Star Wars: How Jacen Solo Created the Blueprint for Kylo Ren Star Wars Legends’ Expanded Universe introduced young Jacen Solo, whose rise and fall as Darth … Batman: What Live-Action Incarnations Can Learn from Soul of the Dragon, Thor: Love and Thunder Set Photos Tease an Alien World. The most likely theory is that Han and Leia’s other child was thought to be dead after the massacre of the Knights of Ren, causing Luke’s self-imposed exile and the breakdown of Leia and Han’s relationship, a couple so devastated by that loss that they refuse to even mention it. However, his victory came at a price. Ben and Jacen both have stories that heavily feature a conflict with Luke Skywalker. Lia is an English Literature Major who loves all things X-Men –and most importantly, Cyclops. Meanwhile, characters like Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker do have that connection to Jacen, adding more emotion to the story. Caedus begged his sister during their duel to help his daughter, and passed on an opportunity to strike down Jaina, realizing it would waste precious time to save his daughter. Though Jacen was the son of Han and Leia, he would be forever remembered as Sith Lord Darth Caedus rather than the name he was born with, just like The Force Awakens‘ very own Ben Solo. Privacy Policy / Cookie Policy. He hunts for Luke, who had gone into hiding, but despite finally being able to choose his own path, he doesn't feel fulfilled. So, when it comes to the battle of the Solo kids, we have to give one to Jacen. Like Kylo Ren, he embraced a new identity: Darth Caedus. Ben’s relationship with Leia and Han when he was growing up is unknown, though he came to resent his father. Poco después de la batalla de la Fortaleza Vader, el Lord Sith Darth Vader, el personaje Sith del famoso Caballero Jedi Anakin Skywalker, escuchó la voz de Ren diciendo que era hora de «dejar morir el pasado» mientras mataba las ilusiones … While both stories have an inherent element of tragedy, Ben Solo's turn and redemption lack the emotional depth of Jacen's. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. Supplemental material provides a brief look into Ben's childhood. A secret Sith apprentice named Vergere taught Jacen how to survive, but unknown to him, the very lessons that kept him alive were his introductions to the Sith. Stover’s Star Wars stories generally tend to get quite far on the psychologising side, and “Traitor” doesn’t Jacen’s fall to … Reply. Snoke's manipulation seems to revolve around the promise of power, acceptance and the ability for Ben to choose his own path rather than be overshadowed by his famous family. Ben Solo Kylo Ren; Star Wars character: Adam Driver as Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) First appearance: The Force Awakens (2015) Last appearance: In The Last Jedi, Luke is petrified by Ben's darkness. KEEP READING: Star Wars: How Heir to the Empire Brought the Thrawn Trilogy to Comics Click the button below to start this article in quick view. still revealing information about this part of Ben's past. Like Ben, Jacen was born after the Battle of Endor, and also joined Luke's Jedi academy. That conflict is magnified by Luke's internal struggling from killing Lumiya, whom he had believed killed Mara Jade. He is also known as Darth Caedus and gets his ability to maniupulate the force from Leia. So could he have secretly saved his younger sister who was training alongside him? If this is the case, we could still see Rey eventually redeemed just like Jaina was in the EU books, ready to save the galaxy and defeat her evil brother. He embarked on a mission with Ben Skywalker and Nelani Dinn, and encountered a woman who reveals herself to Jacen as Lumiya, the Dark Lady of the Sith. Disney's Raya and the Last Dragon Story Trailer Reveals Awkwafina's Dragon, Godzilla Vs. Kong Trailer May Reveal [SPOILER] as the Film's Real Villain, Disney+'s Peter Pan & Wendy Casts Jim Gaffigan as Mr. Smee, Spider-Man 3 Won't Include Dane DeHaan's Green Goblin, the Actor Says, News of the World Is Basically The Mandalorian In the Old West, Godzilla vs. Kong Announces Trailer Date With a Titanic Poster, Disney Reveals Raya and the Last Dragon's Premiere Access Pricing, Spider-Man 3 Photo Confirms Tom Holland's Brother's Role, Modern Cyberpunk Keeps Forgetting the 'Punk'. User Info: Necronmon. At that moment, Jaina and Jacen's psychic bond returned, signifying that he died as Jacen rather than as Caedus. Like Ben Solo, he fell completely to the Dark Side by killing a family member. Jacen Solo was the hero of the war, defeating the leadership of the Vong and ending the conflict. Also, he understood his Force sensitivity at a young age. That became Ben 'Kylo Ren' Solo in the new trilogy, but it's hardly a coincidence that Hera's child has the same unique name. He is briefly tempted to kill his nephew, but ultimately feels shame in that fleeting thought. Two words, Power Creep. Jacen Solo story is great in everything before LOTF. She is also a huge Star Wars and DC Comics fan. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. As suspected by many fans, Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa - and was originally named Ben. It's no surprise the two share many similar story beats, but now that Kylo Ren's story is over with The Rise of Skywalker, it raises the question of which character had the stronger arc. Jacen’s life differed than Ben’s. The latter's torture, subtle seduction and flawed motivation provide a layered approach to the character and his fall. As you all know Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, just like in the comic book series they had a child who turned to the Dark Side after tragic events occurred in his life. The closets to a official book of Kylo Ren VS Jacen Solo we might get. We all know that Kylo has struggled to truly commit to the Dark Side, often tempted back to the Light. Follow 434. And much like how the trailers for The Last Jedi suggest a flirtation with the dark side for Rey, Jaina was also perilously close to the Dark Side after the death of her younger brother. 0. It's possible Vader's helmet has a similar effect on Ben that Anakin's lightsaber had on Luke, calling out to him (hence, his apparent worship of it). Vol. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Tenel Ka Djo/Jacen Solo (87) Leia Organa/Han Solo (79) Mara Jade/Luke Skywalker (59) Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (26) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (15) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (12) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (45) Jump to navigation Jump to search. Kylo Ren, un maschio umano sensibile alla Forza, è stato il Leader Supremo del Primo Ordine e Maestro dei Cavalieri di Ren durante l'era della Resistenza. He trained with his uncle Luke and his new class of Jedi, but at about age 23, Ben succumbed to the Dark Side. Could it be that the memories unleashed by the Lightsaber were in fact Rey’s rather than Luke’s? Like Rey, she was also a talented pilot. Those stories were rebranded in 2014 as Star Wars Legends and deemed no longer part of canon, although some elements and characters -- perhaps most notably Thrawn -- have since made their way back into continuity. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, Jacen was strong in the Force like his mother and uncle, Luke Skywalker. Of note is also the fact that in the Expanded Universe, Jacen Solo is the child of Han and Leia. i’m only human Not only did Caedus kill Luke's wife, Mara Jade, he also tried to turn his son to the Dark Side. Over the decades, the twins were a part of many an important storyline in the EU, but it’s their overriding arcs and eventual fates which could really help us discover the truth about Rey and Kylo. Should have never had him turn into Caedus. He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. He grew up with feelings of resentment toward his parents, and inherited the Force sensitivity of the Skywalkers. If you’re remaining spoiler-free, turn back now. RELATED: REPORT: Disney Developing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic Television Show. Because Luke, Han and Leia are mostly background characters in the sequel trilogy, they don't receive a chance to shine in Ben's story. The vision of the man on the throne that Jacen sought to prevent was replaced by one of his daughter, Allana, sitting atop a white throne as a Jedi Queen. Jacen and Ben have colorful family histories in their timelines. ... Kylo Ren is not a bad character, he’s a bad person. /Featured Stories Sidebar, Features, LucasFilm, Sci-Fi, Sequels, Star-Wars, The Quarantine Stream: ‘Bad Genius’ is a High School Heist Thriller That’s Way More Stylish Than It Has Any Right To Be, ‘The Little Things’ Review: The Dream of the ’90s is Alive in This Predictable Serial Killer Thriller, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Wants to Redefine How We Talk About “Strong Female Characters”, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ is About Finding Trust in a Broken World, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Directors and Screenwriter on the Melting Pot of Southeast Asian Influences in the New Disney Film [Interview], The ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Team Appreciates Your Comparisons to ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’, Copyright © 2005-2019 /Film. Ben Solo was born roughly a year after the Battle of Endor. Ren is haunted by the conflict between the light and dark within him. The familial elements in Jacen's arc are also more prominent, allowing for some intriguing drama. Though they now existed in the universe, it wasn’t until 1995’s Young Jedi Knights series when the twins truly came to prominence, starring in 14 titles centered around their adventures and experiences at Luke’s Jedi academy. In the original books, Jaina and Jacen trained under Luke at his Jedi Praxeum on Yavin 4 – after being sent away by their parents just like Kylo – as part of a new era of Jedi following the eradication of the legendary warriors during the Empire’s purge. Kylo Ren fue objeto de visiones de la Fuerza incluso antes de nacer. Jacen was determined to prevent that from happening. Although deleted from canon, the characters of Jaina and Jacen Solo may say a lot about what we can expect to see from Kylo Ren and Rey. However, Dinn overheard and urged Jacen against believing Lumiya. Jacen Solo wins easily. But in the comic book series, his name is Jacen Solo. In the Expanded Universe Jacen and Jaina Solo are born to Leia and Han on Coruscant in 9 ABY so if we do a bit of maths (34 ABY minus 9 ABY) we … By the time of The Force Awakens, Kylo Ren is roughly 30 years old, well into his ways as a pseudo-Sith apprentice. In the world of the expanded universe, everyone’s favorite smuggler and the galaxy’s most beloved princess had three beautiful bouncing babies. Only, instead of killing his father, he killed his aunt, Mara Jade. Kylo Ren could still very well be Jacen, or at least a Solo kid if they change his name. Logo Concept by: Illumination Ink. Though it would be slightly complex for the filmmakers to explain, it wouldn’t be impossible. Similarly, Jacen Solo has his own weakness: his daughter. In that case, it would be safe to say that Rey was likely training under Luke alongside Kylo as young child before she was dropped off on Jakku. Yep. Web design by Pro Blog Design. A one-stop shop for all things video games. In terms of Kylo Ren, Abrams said his mask is meant to be a nod to Darth Vader and that the character is well aware of what came before him, which is "very much a part of the story of the film." Jacen Solo will never follow that same path, but he nevertheless served as inspiration for Kylo Ren. He deactivated his lightsaber, and used his final moments to warn his wife and daughter to flee to safety. They have similar story beats, although Jacen's is far more defined. Many of his allies, including Chewbacca and his brother, Anakin Solo, were killed. When the moffs of the Imperial Remnant crafted a nano weapon that would target his wife and her people, Caedus feared for his daughter's life. She explained that Jacen could use the Dark Side and not be corrupted by it, and bring peace to the galaxy. Jacen’s similarity to Kylo Ren is much closer. In addition, Caedus' "irredeemable act of murder" made me hate him a lot more than Kylo's. All names, trademarks and images are copyright their respective owners. Those children were twins, Jaina and Jacen, and their younger brother, Anakin. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. KEEP READING: Star Wars: Mark Hamill Reacts to Claim Harrison Ford Kissed Him On Set. Sure, I guess that Rey and Kylo Ren having whatever storyline 'The Rise of Skywalker' was is a thing but also Jaina and Jacen Solo are better. For other uses, see Kylo. Posted on Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 by Rosie Knight. Forum Posts. Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (25) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (14) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (13) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (44) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (37) Angst (35) Romance (32) Fluff (22) Family (18) Star Wars: Jacen Solo Vs Kylo Ren, Who Had the Better Arc? STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. While Kylo Ren was his own character with alternate motivations and a very different familial relationship, the Jacen Solo stories clearly laid the foundation for Ben Solo's rise, fall and ultimate redemption. Kylo, at least, was a great source of unintentional humor. Kylo Ren Is Jacen Solo The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa who turned to the Dark Side after being trained by Luke Skywalker? 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Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. Why do you ask? Ah well, I suppose different fanfiction appeals to others. All of the Jedi in old EU became more and more powerful as time went by. In Legends, Jacen and Luke's struggle has more weight. That's somewhat similar to The Rise of Skywalker's final confrontation between Kylo and Rey, where, in a moment of concern for his mother, Ben's defenses fall, allowing Rey to stab him in the abdomen. Upon seeing his uncle standing over him, ready to strike, Ben fights back. Luke was fully prepared to kill his nephew, but he feared that by striking down Caedus in anger, he would fall to the Dark Side himself. Predictable and his descent into the darkside was not convincingly written IMO. Godzilla vs. Kong Theory: The REAL Villain Is WAY Deadlier. There's much more of a finality to Jacen's arc, bittersweet as it is. As he left to save her, his twin sister Jaina stabbed him in the abdomen. Like Rey and Kylo's fight in The Force Awakens, Caedus was faced with an opponent who employed an unfamiliar fighting style and was at a disadvantage due to his injuries. Additionally, Jacen had been a captive of the Yuuzhan Vong, who placed him in a device called the Embrace of Pain, which continuously stimulated his pain receptors, and served as his prison for a year. Jaina and Jacen were a huge part of the EU, first appearing in Timothy Zahn’s The Last Command in ’93. Ben Solo is able to kill his father but not his mother; in The Last Jedi, he is unable to fire on Leia's ship. Although Marvel's The Rise of Kylo Ren comic is still revealing information about this part of Ben's past, we still have some information about him before he became Kylo Ren. When they w… We know it’s clear that Rey and Kylo are unlikely to be twins, but a popular fan theory is that they’re secretly brother and sister. From what we can tell, he was a happy child who wanted to be a pilot like his father, although he struggled with maintaining the darkness within him, which manifested as resentment of his family. Once Ben switched to darkness, he turned on his classmates, becoming Kylo Ren and destroying everything Luke built. That conflict tore the galaxy apart, resulting in the death of trillions, devastating both the New Republic and the Jedi Order. RELATED: Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? mascot-6 Subscribe Login Una volta, egli era un promettente studente del Maestro Jedi Luke Skywalker, l'ex Ben Solo non era né un Jedi né un Sith, ma un prodotto degli insegnamenti di entrambi gli ordini. They went from being good pilots to flying in perfect synchronicity due to mind melds. Affiliate links used when available. Directed and co-written by J.J. Abrams, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker stars Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong' o, Domhnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Joonas Suotamo, Billie Lourd, Keri Russell, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, and Carrie Fisher, with Naomi Ackie and Richard E. Grant. Plus Chewie was dead before Jacen became Caedus but Chewie's alive when Kylo Ren became a sith. During the final part of Zahn’s trilogy, Leia finally gave birth to to the twins on Coruscant. Upon his return, he adopted a more detached view of life and death, reasoning that sacrifices had to be made for the greater good. Before Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2012, and subsequently streamlined Star Wars continuity, there was the Expanded Universe, the umbrella term for any officially licensed material outside of the films, including novels, television series, video games and comic books. This post contains observations taken from the trailers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Jacen sought out possible futures through the Force, and encountered a vision of himself fighting Luke and killing him while the galaxy remained at war. 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All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Kylo’s descent into the Dark Side seems to echo that of Jacen. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. He was replacing the daughter he’d lost so many years ago. Jaina had unique training, studying under the tutelage of both Boba Fett and Luke at different points of her life. Ben Solo/Kylo and the Sequels as a whole were poorly written overall. Part of that is because of the benefit that long-form storytelling. Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? Asadora! The warring factions had become united against Caedus and, following his death, made a peace settlement. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. Star Wars: How Jacen Solo Created the Blueprint for Kylo Ren Star Wars Legends’ Expanded Universe introduced young Jacen Solo, whose rise and fall as Darth … Batman: What Live-Action Incarnations Can Learn from Soul of the Dragon, Thor: Love and Thunder Set Photos Tease an Alien World. The most likely theory is that Han and Leia’s other child was thought to be dead after the massacre of the Knights of Ren, causing Luke’s self-imposed exile and the breakdown of Leia and Han’s relationship, a couple so devastated by that loss that they refuse to even mention it. However, his victory came at a price. Ben and Jacen both have stories that heavily feature a conflict with Luke Skywalker. Lia is an English Literature Major who loves all things X-Men –and most importantly, Cyclops. Meanwhile, characters like Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker do have that connection to Jacen, adding more emotion to the story. Caedus begged his sister during their duel to help his daughter, and passed on an opportunity to strike down Jaina, realizing it would waste precious time to save his daughter. Though Jacen was the son of Han and Leia, he would be forever remembered as Sith Lord Darth Caedus rather than the name he was born with, just like The Force Awakens‘ very own Ben Solo. Privacy Policy / Cookie Policy. He hunts for Luke, who had gone into hiding, but despite finally being able to choose his own path, he doesn't feel fulfilled. So, when it comes to the battle of the Solo kids, we have to give one to Jacen. Like Kylo Ren, he embraced a new identity: Darth Caedus. Ben’s relationship with Leia and Han when he was growing up is unknown, though he came to resent his father. Poco después de la batalla de la Fortaleza Vader, el Lord Sith Darth Vader, el personaje Sith del famoso Caballero Jedi Anakin Skywalker, escuchó la voz de Ren diciendo que era hora de «dejar morir el pasado» mientras mataba las ilusiones … While both stories have an inherent element of tragedy, Ben Solo's turn and redemption lack the emotional depth of Jacen's. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. Supplemental material provides a brief look into Ben's childhood. A secret Sith apprentice named Vergere taught Jacen how to survive, but unknown to him, the very lessons that kept him alive were his introductions to the Sith. Stover’s Star Wars stories generally tend to get quite far on the psychologising side, and “Traitor” doesn’t Jacen’s fall to … Reply. Snoke's manipulation seems to revolve around the promise of power, acceptance and the ability for Ben to choose his own path rather than be overshadowed by his famous family. Ben Solo Kylo Ren; Star Wars character: Adam Driver as Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) First appearance: The Force Awakens (2015) Last appearance: In The Last Jedi, Luke is petrified by Ben's darkness. KEEP READING: Star Wars: How Heir to the Empire Brought the Thrawn Trilogy to Comics Click the button below to start this article in quick view. still revealing information about this part of Ben's past. Like Ben, Jacen was born after the Battle of Endor, and also joined Luke's Jedi academy. That conflict is magnified by Luke's internal struggling from killing Lumiya, whom he had believed killed Mara Jade. He is also known as Darth Caedus and gets his ability to maniupulate the force from Leia. So could he have secretly saved his younger sister who was training alongside him? If this is the case, we could still see Rey eventually redeemed just like Jaina was in the EU books, ready to save the galaxy and defeat her evil brother. He embarked on a mission with Ben Skywalker and Nelani Dinn, and encountered a woman who reveals herself to Jacen as Lumiya, the Dark Lady of the Sith. Disney's Raya and the Last Dragon Story Trailer Reveals Awkwafina's Dragon, Godzilla Vs. Kong Trailer May Reveal [SPOILER] as the Film's Real Villain, Disney+'s Peter Pan & Wendy Casts Jim Gaffigan as Mr. Smee, Spider-Man 3 Won't Include Dane DeHaan's Green Goblin, the Actor Says, News of the World Is Basically The Mandalorian In the Old West, Godzilla vs. Kong Announces Trailer Date With a Titanic Poster, Disney Reveals Raya and the Last Dragon's Premiere Access Pricing, Spider-Man 3 Photo Confirms Tom Holland's Brother's Role, Modern Cyberpunk Keeps Forgetting the 'Punk'. User Info: Necronmon. At that moment, Jaina and Jacen's psychic bond returned, signifying that he died as Jacen rather than as Caedus. Like Ben Solo, he fell completely to the Dark Side by killing a family member. Jacen Solo was the hero of the war, defeating the leadership of the Vong and ending the conflict. Also, he understood his Force sensitivity at a young age. That became Ben 'Kylo Ren' Solo in the new trilogy, but it's hardly a coincidence that Hera's child has the same unique name. He is briefly tempted to kill his nephew, but ultimately feels shame in that fleeting thought. Two words, Power Creep. Jacen Solo story is great in everything before LOTF. She is also a huge Star Wars and DC Comics fan. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. As suspected by many fans, Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa - and was originally named Ben. It's no surprise the two share many similar story beats, but now that Kylo Ren's story is over with The Rise of Skywalker, it raises the question of which character had the stronger arc. Jacen’s life differed than Ben’s. The latter's torture, subtle seduction and flawed motivation provide a layered approach to the character and his fall. As you all know Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, just like in the comic book series they had a child who turned to the Dark Side after tragic events occurred in his life. The closets to a official book of Kylo Ren VS Jacen Solo we might get. We all know that Kylo has struggled to truly commit to the Dark Side, often tempted back to the Light. Follow 434. And much like how the trailers for The Last Jedi suggest a flirtation with the dark side for Rey, Jaina was also perilously close to the Dark Side after the death of her younger brother. 0. It's possible Vader's helmet has a similar effect on Ben that Anakin's lightsaber had on Luke, calling out to him (hence, his apparent worship of it). Vol. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Tenel Ka Djo/Jacen Solo (87) Leia Organa/Han Solo (79) Mara Jade/Luke Skywalker (59) Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (26) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (15) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (12) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (45) Jump to navigation Jump to search. Kylo Ren, un maschio umano sensibile alla Forza, è stato il Leader Supremo del Primo Ordine e Maestro dei Cavalieri di Ren durante l'era della Resistenza. He trained with his uncle Luke and his new class of Jedi, but at about age 23, Ben succumbed to the Dark Side. Could it be that the memories unleashed by the Lightsaber were in fact Rey’s rather than Luke’s? Like Rey, she was also a talented pilot. Those stories were rebranded in 2014 as Star Wars Legends and deemed no longer part of canon, although some elements and characters -- perhaps most notably Thrawn -- have since made their way back into continuity. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, Jacen was strong in the Force like his mother and uncle, Luke Skywalker. Of note is also the fact that in the Expanded Universe, Jacen Solo is the child of Han and Leia. i’m only human Not only did Caedus kill Luke's wife, Mara Jade, he also tried to turn his son to the Dark Side. Over the decades, the twins were a part of many an important storyline in the EU, but it’s their overriding arcs and eventual fates which could really help us discover the truth about Rey and Kylo. Should have never had him turn into Caedus. He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. He grew up with feelings of resentment toward his parents, and inherited the Force sensitivity of the Skywalkers. If you’re remaining spoiler-free, turn back now. RELATED: REPORT: Disney Developing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic Television Show. Because Luke, Han and Leia are mostly background characters in the sequel trilogy, they don't receive a chance to shine in Ben's story. The vision of the man on the throne that Jacen sought to prevent was replaced by one of his daughter, Allana, sitting atop a white throne as a Jedi Queen. Jacen and Ben have colorful family histories in their timelines. ... Kylo Ren is not a bad character, he’s a bad person. /Featured Stories Sidebar, Features, LucasFilm, Sci-Fi, Sequels, Star-Wars, The Quarantine Stream: ‘Bad Genius’ is a High School Heist Thriller That’s Way More Stylish Than It Has Any Right To Be, ‘The Little Things’ Review: The Dream of the ’90s is Alive in This Predictable Serial Killer Thriller, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Wants to Redefine How We Talk About “Strong Female Characters”, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ is About Finding Trust in a Broken World, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Directors and Screenwriter on the Melting Pot of Southeast Asian Influences in the New Disney Film [Interview], The ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Team Appreciates Your Comparisons to ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’, Copyright © 2005-2019 /Film. Ben Solo was born roughly a year after the Battle of Endor. Ren is haunted by the conflict between the light and dark within him. The familial elements in Jacen's arc are also more prominent, allowing for some intriguing drama. Though they now existed in the universe, it wasn’t until 1995’s Young Jedi Knights series when the twins truly came to prominence, starring in 14 titles centered around their adventures and experiences at Luke’s Jedi academy. In the original books, Jaina and Jacen trained under Luke at his Jedi Praxeum on Yavin 4 – after being sent away by their parents just like Kylo – as part of a new era of Jedi following the eradication of the legendary warriors during the Empire’s purge. Kylo Ren fue objeto de visiones de la Fuerza incluso antes de nacer. Jacen was determined to prevent that from happening. Although deleted from canon, the characters of Jaina and Jacen Solo may say a lot about what we can expect to see from Kylo Ren and Rey. However, Dinn overheard and urged Jacen against believing Lumiya. Jacen Solo wins easily. But in the comic book series, his name is Jacen Solo. In the Expanded Universe Jacen and Jaina Solo are born to Leia and Han on Coruscant in 9 ABY so if we do a bit of maths (34 ABY minus 9 ABY) we … By the time of The Force Awakens, Kylo Ren is roughly 30 years old, well into his ways as a pseudo-Sith apprentice. In the world of the expanded universe, everyone’s favorite smuggler and the galaxy’s most beloved princess had three beautiful bouncing babies. Only, instead of killing his father, he killed his aunt, Mara Jade. Kylo Ren could still very well be Jacen, or at least a Solo kid if they change his name. Logo Concept by: Illumination Ink. Though it would be slightly complex for the filmmakers to explain, it wouldn’t be impossible. Similarly, Jacen Solo has his own weakness: his daughter. In that case, it would be safe to say that Rey was likely training under Luke alongside Kylo as young child before she was dropped off on Jakku. Yep. Web design by Pro Blog Design. A one-stop shop for all things video games. In terms of Kylo Ren, Abrams said his mask is meant to be a nod to Darth Vader and that the character is well aware of what came before him, which is "very much a part of the story of the film." Jacen Solo will never follow that same path, but he nevertheless served as inspiration for Kylo Ren. He deactivated his lightsaber, and used his final moments to warn his wife and daughter to flee to safety. They have similar story beats, although Jacen's is far more defined. Many of his allies, including Chewbacca and his brother, Anakin Solo, were killed. When the moffs of the Imperial Remnant crafted a nano weapon that would target his wife and her people, Caedus feared for his daughter's life. She explained that Jacen could use the Dark Side and not be corrupted by it, and bring peace to the galaxy. Jacen’s similarity to Kylo Ren is much closer. In addition, Caedus' "irredeemable act of murder" made me hate him a lot more than Kylo's. All names, trademarks and images are copyright their respective owners. Those children were twins, Jaina and Jacen, and their younger brother, Anakin. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. KEEP READING: Star Wars: Mark Hamill Reacts to Claim Harrison Ford Kissed Him On Set. Sure, I guess that Rey and Kylo Ren having whatever storyline 'The Rise of Skywalker' was is a thing but also Jaina and Jacen Solo are better. For other uses, see Kylo. Posted on Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 by Rosie Knight. Forum Posts. Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (25) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (14) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (13) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (44) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (37) Angst (35) Romance (32) Fluff (22) Family (18) Star Wars: Jacen Solo Vs Kylo Ren, Who Had the Better Arc? STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. While Kylo Ren was his own character with alternate motivations and a very different familial relationship, the Jacen Solo stories clearly laid the foundation for Ben Solo's rise, fall and ultimate redemption. Kylo, at least, was a great source of unintentional humor. Kylo Ren Is Jacen Solo The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa who turned to the Dark Side after being trained by Luke Skywalker? 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That not only describes Adam … Jaina Solo was a strong Jedi and a powerful force of good in the Galaxy, taking on talents from her mother and father, both Force sensitive and a dab hand at fixing anything of the mechanical variety. Though Disney stripped down the expanded world of the Star Wars universe when they took control of Lucasfilm, fans of the franchise and its expansive decades-deep landscape still use the framework set up by the books and comics to theorize on what might happen next and who we might see appear in the current Star Wars canon. How does Kylo Ren aka Ben Solo from The Force Awakens compare to Darth Caedus aka Jacen Solo from Star Wars Legends? Luke encountered Caedus torturing Ben in the Embrace of Pain, leading to a duel between the two. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. From the first moment that it was revealed that Kylo Ren was in fact Ben Solo, Han and Leia’s estranged son, EU fans were seeing reflections of the Solo’s other de-canonised first son, Jacen. Wiki Points ... Jacen can solo with 1 arm cut off and having been stabbed with a lightsaber before hand Star Wars: Why Did Maul Try to Run Down Anakin in The Phantom Menace? Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. Ben Solo was raised by a loving family. He didn’t have a familial bond with his parents early in life, having been raised by a nanny. 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Though the pair never materialized, their story may well be able to give us insight into the future of another pair in the new trilogy: Rey and Kylo Ren. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. Additionally, Rey and the other characters who fight Kylo Ren have no significant bond to the boy he was before. The troubled Solo boy felt … So, it's likely that a big part of Ben's story involves an identity crisis over that revelation, coupled with the impact of his repeated temptation by Snoke. After the destruction of Luke's Jedi academy, Kylo Ren joins the First Order. In the canonical 2016 novel Bloodline, set about six years before the events of The Force Awakens, Leia's secret that she is the daughter of Darth Vader is revealed and, immediately, she worries about Ben's reaction. From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Everything after Return of the Jedi has been erased. He was trained by his legendary uncle to become a famed Jedi warrior and hero of the Galactic Empire, only to betray his family and friends when he turned to the Dark Side like his grandfather, Darth Vader, in a twisted attempt to bring order to the splintered sects of the Galaxy. They’re members of the Skywalker family on Leia’s side. Page 1 of 3: 1: 2 3 > Jarvus: 11.08.2015 , 10:09 AM | #1: Quote. After the war, Jacen traveled the galaxy and learned from different Force users. Like Jacen, and their grandfather before them, that display of humanity allowed him to die as Ben Solo, not as Kylo Ren. Why do you ask? Ah well, I suppose different fanfiction appeals to others. All of the Jedi in old EU became more and more powerful as time went by. In Legends, Jacen and Luke's struggle has more weight. That's somewhat similar to The Rise of Skywalker's final confrontation between Kylo and Rey, where, in a moment of concern for his mother, Ben's defenses fall, allowing Rey to stab him in the abdomen. Upon seeing his uncle standing over him, ready to strike, Ben fights back. Luke was fully prepared to kill his nephew, but he feared that by striking down Caedus in anger, he would fall to the Dark Side himself. Predictable and his descent into the darkside was not convincingly written IMO. Godzilla vs. Kong Theory: The REAL Villain Is WAY Deadlier. There's much more of a finality to Jacen's arc, bittersweet as it is. As he left to save her, his twin sister Jaina stabbed him in the abdomen. Like Rey and Kylo's fight in The Force Awakens, Caedus was faced with an opponent who employed an unfamiliar fighting style and was at a disadvantage due to his injuries. Additionally, Jacen had been a captive of the Yuuzhan Vong, who placed him in a device called the Embrace of Pain, which continuously stimulated his pain receptors, and served as his prison for a year. Jaina and Jacen were a huge part of the EU, first appearing in Timothy Zahn’s The Last Command in ’93. Ben Solo is able to kill his father but not his mother; in The Last Jedi, he is unable to fire on Leia's ship. Although Marvel's The Rise of Kylo Ren comic is still revealing information about this part of Ben's past, we still have some information about him before he became Kylo Ren. When they w… We know it’s clear that Rey and Kylo are unlikely to be twins, but a popular fan theory is that they’re secretly brother and sister. From what we can tell, he was a happy child who wanted to be a pilot like his father, although he struggled with maintaining the darkness within him, which manifested as resentment of his family. Once Ben switched to darkness, he turned on his classmates, becoming Kylo Ren and destroying everything Luke built. That conflict tore the galaxy apart, resulting in the death of trillions, devastating both the New Republic and the Jedi Order. RELATED: Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? mascot-6 Subscribe Login Una volta, egli era un promettente studente del Maestro Jedi Luke Skywalker, l'ex Ben Solo non era né un Jedi né un Sith, ma un prodotto degli insegnamenti di entrambi gli ordini. They went from being good pilots to flying in perfect synchronicity due to mind melds. Affiliate links used when available. Directed and co-written by J.J. Abrams, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker stars Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Lupita Nyong' o, Domhnall Gleeson, Kelly Marie Tran, Joonas Suotamo, Billie Lourd, Keri Russell, Anthony Daniels, Mark Hamill, Billy Dee Williams, and Carrie Fisher, with Naomi Ackie and Richard E. Grant. Plus Chewie was dead before Jacen became Caedus but Chewie's alive when Kylo Ren became a sith. During the final part of Zahn’s trilogy, Leia finally gave birth to to the twins on Coruscant. Upon his return, he adopted a more detached view of life and death, reasoning that sacrifices had to be made for the greater good. Before Disney purchased Lucasfilm in 2012, and subsequently streamlined Star Wars continuity, there was the Expanded Universe, the umbrella term for any officially licensed material outside of the films, including novels, television series, video games and comic books. This post contains observations taken from the trailers for Star Wars: The Last Jedi. Jacen sought out possible futures through the Force, and encountered a vision of himself fighting Luke and killing him while the galaxy remained at war. 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All the latest gaming news, game reviews and trailers. Kylo’s descent into the Dark Side seems to echo that of Jacen. Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. He was replacing the daughter he’d lost so many years ago. Jaina had unique training, studying under the tutelage of both Boba Fett and Luke at different points of her life. Ben Solo/Kylo and the Sequels as a whole were poorly written overall. Part of that is because of the benefit that long-form storytelling. Star Wars: What Happened to the New Jedi Order? Asadora! The warring factions had become united against Caedus and, following his death, made a peace settlement. Jacen reasoned that Luke must live for the greater good, and, thus, struck down Dinn and began his Sith apprenticeship. Star Wars: How Jacen Solo Created the Blueprint for Kylo Ren Star Wars Legends’ Expanded Universe introduced young Jacen Solo, whose rise and fall as Darth … Batman: What Live-Action Incarnations Can Learn from Soul of the Dragon, Thor: Love and Thunder Set Photos Tease an Alien World. The most likely theory is that Han and Leia’s other child was thought to be dead after the massacre of the Knights of Ren, causing Luke’s self-imposed exile and the breakdown of Leia and Han’s relationship, a couple so devastated by that loss that they refuse to even mention it. However, his victory came at a price. Ben and Jacen both have stories that heavily feature a conflict with Luke Skywalker. Lia is an English Literature Major who loves all things X-Men –and most importantly, Cyclops. Meanwhile, characters like Jaina Solo and Ben Skywalker do have that connection to Jacen, adding more emotion to the story. Caedus begged his sister during their duel to help his daughter, and passed on an opportunity to strike down Jaina, realizing it would waste precious time to save his daughter. Though Jacen was the son of Han and Leia, he would be forever remembered as Sith Lord Darth Caedus rather than the name he was born with, just like The Force Awakens‘ very own Ben Solo. Privacy Policy / Cookie Policy. He hunts for Luke, who had gone into hiding, but despite finally being able to choose his own path, he doesn't feel fulfilled. So, when it comes to the battle of the Solo kids, we have to give one to Jacen. Like Kylo Ren, he embraced a new identity: Darth Caedus. Ben’s relationship with Leia and Han when he was growing up is unknown, though he came to resent his father. Poco después de la batalla de la Fortaleza Vader, el Lord Sith Darth Vader, el personaje Sith del famoso Caballero Jedi Anakin Skywalker, escuchó la voz de Ren diciendo que era hora de «dejar morir el pasado» mientras mataba las ilusiones … While both stories have an inherent element of tragedy, Ben Solo's turn and redemption lack the emotional depth of Jacen's. In Legends, Caedus' death ultimately brought peace to the galaxy, an idea that inspired his turn to the Dark Side in the first place. Supplemental material provides a brief look into Ben's childhood. A secret Sith apprentice named Vergere taught Jacen how to survive, but unknown to him, the very lessons that kept him alive were his introductions to the Sith. Stover’s Star Wars stories generally tend to get quite far on the psychologising side, and “Traitor” doesn’t Jacen’s fall to … Reply. Snoke's manipulation seems to revolve around the promise of power, acceptance and the ability for Ben to choose his own path rather than be overshadowed by his famous family. Ben Solo Kylo Ren; Star Wars character: Adam Driver as Kylo Ren in Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) First appearance: The Force Awakens (2015) Last appearance: In The Last Jedi, Luke is petrified by Ben's darkness. KEEP READING: Star Wars: How Heir to the Empire Brought the Thrawn Trilogy to Comics Click the button below to start this article in quick view. still revealing information about this part of Ben's past. Like Ben, Jacen was born after the Battle of Endor, and also joined Luke's Jedi academy. That conflict is magnified by Luke's internal struggling from killing Lumiya, whom he had believed killed Mara Jade. He is also known as Darth Caedus and gets his ability to maniupulate the force from Leia. So could he have secretly saved his younger sister who was training alongside him? If this is the case, we could still see Rey eventually redeemed just like Jaina was in the EU books, ready to save the galaxy and defeat her evil brother. He embarked on a mission with Ben Skywalker and Nelani Dinn, and encountered a woman who reveals herself to Jacen as Lumiya, the Dark Lady of the Sith. Disney's Raya and the Last Dragon Story Trailer Reveals Awkwafina's Dragon, Godzilla Vs. Kong Trailer May Reveal [SPOILER] as the Film's Real Villain, Disney+'s Peter Pan & Wendy Casts Jim Gaffigan as Mr. Smee, Spider-Man 3 Won't Include Dane DeHaan's Green Goblin, the Actor Says, News of the World Is Basically The Mandalorian In the Old West, Godzilla vs. Kong Announces Trailer Date With a Titanic Poster, Disney Reveals Raya and the Last Dragon's Premiere Access Pricing, Spider-Man 3 Photo Confirms Tom Holland's Brother's Role, Modern Cyberpunk Keeps Forgetting the 'Punk'. User Info: Necronmon. At that moment, Jaina and Jacen's psychic bond returned, signifying that he died as Jacen rather than as Caedus. Like Ben Solo, he fell completely to the Dark Side by killing a family member. Jacen Solo was the hero of the war, defeating the leadership of the Vong and ending the conflict. Also, he understood his Force sensitivity at a young age. That became Ben 'Kylo Ren' Solo in the new trilogy, but it's hardly a coincidence that Hera's child has the same unique name. He is briefly tempted to kill his nephew, but ultimately feels shame in that fleeting thought. Two words, Power Creep. Jacen Solo story is great in everything before LOTF. She is also a huge Star Wars and DC Comics fan. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. As suspected by many fans, Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa - and was originally named Ben. It's no surprise the two share many similar story beats, but now that Kylo Ren's story is over with The Rise of Skywalker, it raises the question of which character had the stronger arc. Jacen’s life differed than Ben’s. The latter's torture, subtle seduction and flawed motivation provide a layered approach to the character and his fall. As you all know Kylo Ren is the son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, just like in the comic book series they had a child who turned to the Dark Side after tragic events occurred in his life. The closets to a official book of Kylo Ren VS Jacen Solo we might get. We all know that Kylo has struggled to truly commit to the Dark Side, often tempted back to the Light. Follow 434. And much like how the trailers for The Last Jedi suggest a flirtation with the dark side for Rey, Jaina was also perilously close to the Dark Side after the death of her younger brother. 0. It's possible Vader's helmet has a similar effect on Ben that Anakin's lightsaber had on Luke, calling out to him (hence, his apparent worship of it). Vol. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Tenel Ka Djo/Jacen Solo (87) Leia Organa/Han Solo (79) Mara Jade/Luke Skywalker (59) Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (26) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (15) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (12) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (45) Jump to navigation Jump to search. Kylo Ren, un maschio umano sensibile alla Forza, è stato il Leader Supremo del Primo Ordine e Maestro dei Cavalieri di Ren durante l'era della Resistenza. He trained with his uncle Luke and his new class of Jedi, but at about age 23, Ben succumbed to the Dark Side. Could it be that the memories unleashed by the Lightsaber were in fact Rey’s rather than Luke’s? Like Rey, she was also a talented pilot. Those stories were rebranded in 2014 as Star Wars Legends and deemed no longer part of canon, although some elements and characters -- perhaps most notably Thrawn -- have since made their way back into continuity. The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa Solo, Jacen was strong in the Force like his mother and uncle, Luke Skywalker. Of note is also the fact that in the Expanded Universe, Jacen Solo is the child of Han and Leia. i’m only human Not only did Caedus kill Luke's wife, Mara Jade, he also tried to turn his son to the Dark Side. Over the decades, the twins were a part of many an important storyline in the EU, but it’s their overriding arcs and eventual fates which could really help us discover the truth about Rey and Kylo. Should have never had him turn into Caedus. He and his twin sister, Jaina, were born five years after Star Wars Episode VI: Return of the Jedi, and because the New Republic was under attack by the forces of the Empire, the twins were raised in hideaways, first on New Alderaan and then on the planet Anoth under the guidance of Leia's trusted aide, Winter. He grew up with feelings of resentment toward his parents, and inherited the Force sensitivity of the Skywalkers. If you’re remaining spoiler-free, turn back now. RELATED: REPORT: Disney Developing Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic Television Show. Because Luke, Han and Leia are mostly background characters in the sequel trilogy, they don't receive a chance to shine in Ben's story. The vision of the man on the throne that Jacen sought to prevent was replaced by one of his daughter, Allana, sitting atop a white throne as a Jedi Queen. Jacen and Ben have colorful family histories in their timelines. ... Kylo Ren is not a bad character, he’s a bad person. /Featured Stories Sidebar, Features, LucasFilm, Sci-Fi, Sequels, Star-Wars, The Quarantine Stream: ‘Bad Genius’ is a High School Heist Thriller That’s Way More Stylish Than It Has Any Right To Be, ‘The Little Things’ Review: The Dream of the ’90s is Alive in This Predictable Serial Killer Thriller, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Wants to Redefine How We Talk About “Strong Female Characters”, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ is About Finding Trust in a Broken World, ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Directors and Screenwriter on the Melting Pot of Southeast Asian Influences in the New Disney Film [Interview], The ‘Raya and the Last Dragon’ Team Appreciates Your Comparisons to ‘Avatar: The Last Airbender’, Copyright © 2005-2019 /Film. Ben Solo was born roughly a year after the Battle of Endor. Ren is haunted by the conflict between the light and dark within him. The familial elements in Jacen's arc are also more prominent, allowing for some intriguing drama. Though they now existed in the universe, it wasn’t until 1995’s Young Jedi Knights series when the twins truly came to prominence, starring in 14 titles centered around their adventures and experiences at Luke’s Jedi academy. In the original books, Jaina and Jacen trained under Luke at his Jedi Praxeum on Yavin 4 – after being sent away by their parents just like Kylo – as part of a new era of Jedi following the eradication of the legendary warriors during the Empire’s purge. Kylo Ren fue objeto de visiones de la Fuerza incluso antes de nacer. Jacen was determined to prevent that from happening. Although deleted from canon, the characters of Jaina and Jacen Solo may say a lot about what we can expect to see from Kylo Ren and Rey. However, Dinn overheard and urged Jacen against believing Lumiya. Jacen Solo wins easily. But in the comic book series, his name is Jacen Solo. In the Expanded Universe Jacen and Jaina Solo are born to Leia and Han on Coruscant in 9 ABY so if we do a bit of maths (34 ABY minus 9 ABY) we … By the time of The Force Awakens, Kylo Ren is roughly 30 years old, well into his ways as a pseudo-Sith apprentice. In the world of the expanded universe, everyone’s favorite smuggler and the galaxy’s most beloved princess had three beautiful bouncing babies. Only, instead of killing his father, he killed his aunt, Mara Jade. Kylo Ren could still very well be Jacen, or at least a Solo kid if they change his name. Logo Concept by: Illumination Ink. Though it would be slightly complex for the filmmakers to explain, it wouldn’t be impossible. Similarly, Jacen Solo has his own weakness: his daughter. In that case, it would be safe to say that Rey was likely training under Luke alongside Kylo as young child before she was dropped off on Jakku. Yep. Web design by Pro Blog Design. A one-stop shop for all things video games. In terms of Kylo Ren, Abrams said his mask is meant to be a nod to Darth Vader and that the character is well aware of what came before him, which is "very much a part of the story of the film." Jacen Solo will never follow that same path, but he nevertheless served as inspiration for Kylo Ren. He deactivated his lightsaber, and used his final moments to warn his wife and daughter to flee to safety. They have similar story beats, although Jacen's is far more defined. Many of his allies, including Chewbacca and his brother, Anakin Solo, were killed. When the moffs of the Imperial Remnant crafted a nano weapon that would target his wife and her people, Caedus feared for his daughter's life. She explained that Jacen could use the Dark Side and not be corrupted by it, and bring peace to the galaxy. Jacen’s similarity to Kylo Ren is much closer. In addition, Caedus' "irredeemable act of murder" made me hate him a lot more than Kylo's. All names, trademarks and images are copyright their respective owners. Those children were twins, Jaina and Jacen, and their younger brother, Anakin. In the aftermath of The Rise of Skywalker, the Resistance celebrated the fall of Palpatine and, presumably, the supreme leader of the First Order, Kylo Ren. KEEP READING: Star Wars: Mark Hamill Reacts to Claim Harrison Ford Kissed Him On Set. Sure, I guess that Rey and Kylo Ren having whatever storyline 'The Rise of Skywalker' was is a thing but also Jaina and Jacen Solo are better. For other uses, see Kylo. Posted on Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 by Rosie Knight. Forum Posts. Jagged Fel/Jaina Solo (34) Rey/Ben Solo | Kylo Ren (25) Anakin Solo/Tahiri Veila (17) Kylo Ren/Rey (17) Kyp Durron/Jaina Solo (14) Anakin Solo & Jacen Solo & Jaina Solo (13) Padmé Amidala/Anakin Skywalker (10) Exclude Additional Tags Alternate Universe (44) Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence (37) Angst (35) Romance (32) Fluff (22) Family (18) Star Wars: Jacen Solo Vs Kylo Ren, Who Had the Better Arc? STAR WARS: The Old Republic > English > STAR WARS Discussion Kylo Ren is Jacen Solo, grandson of Anakin Skywalker. While Kylo Ren was his own character with alternate motivations and a very different familial relationship, the Jacen Solo stories clearly laid the foundation for Ben Solo's rise, fall and ultimate redemption. Kylo, at least, was a great source of unintentional humor. Kylo Ren Is Jacen Solo The son of Han Solo and Leia Organa who turned to the Dark Side after being trained by Luke Skywalker? 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